somebody that they see as actually walking the walk. they were expressing frustration with politicians in washington who they view as saying one thing to them when they're campaigning and trying to get elected and then going to washington and doing something else. the line on cruz and this defund obama care push was really, hey, this is a guy who told me one thing when he was campaigning and now he's going in washington and he's trying to do what he said he was going to do. >> did you get the sense, you know, from the public that you were talking to, and i know you were doing some interviews, the very people that attended, at what point do elections have consequences? >> well, i mean, these people hope that, you know, their view is that they elected somebody who they wanted to see in a very vocal opposition. and, you know, at the -- on the one hand, obama was elected president. but they say, look, you know, it was still a divided country.